pang18 发表于 2011-8-17 13:05:40

关于一个中药方子的不解,请可老师帮助

<P>以下是我在论坛上看到可老师关于肾传支的药方,</P><P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-font-kerning: 1&#46;0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">我在治疗这个病时以五苓散与四君子汤为基础方,再根据鸡群的状况及其他并发症综合考虑。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-font-kerning: 1&#46;0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">
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</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-font-kerning: 1&#46;0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">加减:如果基本没有呼吸道症状,改桂枝为肉桂;呼吸道严重时加半夏、升麻、射干;伴发大杆时加大黄,湿热重时加茵陈;寒重时加附子、干姜。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-font-kerning: 1&#46;0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">
</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-font-kerning: 1&#46;0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">用法:粉碎后日采食量的</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1&#46;0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">1%</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-font-kerning: 1&#46;0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">拌料,或相同用量煎水后每天早晚分两次饮水。需要注意的是,计算药量的采食量不能按病鸡的实际采食量计算,而应按当前日龄正常情况下的采食量计算,因为发病后往往会出现减料,如果按实际采食量计算会导致用药量不足。</SPAN></P><P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-font-kerning: 1&#46;0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"></SPAN>有几个问题不懂:</P><P>1、以上每味中药后面的数字代表什么,是克、千克还是其它;</P><P>2、如果伴发呼吸道或大杆后几味中药应该如何用;</P><P>3、中药是粉剂拌料好还是煎服饮水好:</P><P>4、如果用煎服,以上中药在治疗肾传支时煎服的药材数量、用水量及煎好后每天饮用几次,每次饮多少;</P><P>谢谢!</P><P> </P>

ndyzlwx 发表于 2011-8-17 13:51:15

份   例如按斤算的话是斤

大实话 发表于 2011-8-17 13:56:24

第二个问题我也关注

平头恋上黑墨镜 发表于 2011-8-17 15:08:07

一般情况都是以克为单位的

赵红光 发表于 2011-8-17 16:15:02

是以克为单位的。按说半夏等加20,大黄加30煎服吸收好。拌料适口性好,最好是一次性饮水。

完美相遇吧 发表于 2011-8-17 17:09:56

顶一下 这么好的中药方子

可兽医 发表于 2011-8-17 21:08:48

1、方中的数字是没有单位的,只是各药的比例
2、加减用药的量根据相应的证表现轻重灵活掌握,一般情况下与其他药的配合比例在15到45
3、这个方子煎水效果更好一些
4、煎药时的用水量可以稍大一些,容器足够大的话可以多加一些水,至少得淹没药材;饮水时将药加到两到三个小时的水中,饮前控水一小时再饮药水,每天分早、晚两次饮鸡。

pang_gp 发表于 2011-8-17 22:05:24

<P>谢谢,可老师的解答,我还有一个问题想问一下:</P><P>以上方子我每天煎多少药(原材料)呢,才能上午、下午各一次,是否有什么依据(比如鸡地日龄、重量、采食量等)的啊;</P><P>据我了解一般中药如果粉剂拌料是以采食量为参照的,而饮水每次(天)煎多少药我不懂,请指点;</P><P> </P>

可兽医 发表于 2011-8-18 00:57:43

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饮水和拌料的总用药量计算方法是一样的,量也一样

可兽医 发表于 2011-8-18 00:58:28

把全天用的中药集中煎取,煎后的药汁分两次饮就可以了

pang18 发表于 2011-8-18 08:29:06

<P>谢谢,可老师!</P>
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